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by Teresa
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Don't you bloody Scousers ever criticise the way other people speak

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Haha, pot, kettle, Brummie

I was talking to one of my online friends from Canada a little while back.. She'd talked on the phone to one of our friends, Allison from Illinois and couldn't stop laughing when Allison pronounced "roof" as "ruff". Seaking of Illinois, Allison gets really annoyed when people pronounce it Illi-NOISE instead of Illi-NOI.

People used to have trouble with my band's old name. What's difficult about "The Dregs"??? Bristolians, I tell you...

I love bands with names that nobody knows how to pronounce properly, though.. I'm listening to this Icelandic band called Sigur Rós, and I only recently learned how to pronounce it. (If anyone's interested it's Si-ur Rose, with the I in the "Si" part really strong like the I in "hit" and you have to say "Rose" really fast. It takes some getting used to..)

Some of my personal hates have already been listed (secretary, asked), but I also hate: jool-ery for jewellery, lickle and bockle instead of little and bottle (yes Ashley from Corrie, I mean you), and the big annoyance of egg-zit instead of ex-it.

Mispronunciation of local place names also bugs me, especially when it's on the local Calendar news - they should know better! The one that really annoys me is when they say Horn-zee for Hornsea (a small East Yorkshire town). Look at how it's spelt, for god's sake! You don't say you're going for a swim in the zee, do you?! (not in English anyway). /end of rant

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by halojones
Mispronunciation of local place names also bugs me, especially when it's on the local Calendar news - they should know better! The one that really annoys me is when they say Horn-zee for Hornsea (a small East Yorkshire town). Look at how it's spelt, for god's sake! You don't say you're going for a swim in the zee, do you?! (not in English anyway). /end of rant

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Yes, but you do say swan-zee. English can be a difficult language to know how to pronounce, even for native speakers. I know if I've only ever seen a word written down I'm not always correct in my pronuniciation. Pronunication is rarely logical, and there's nothing wrong with being incorrect in it occasionally.

Anyway, a lot of what people are complaining about are not mispronunciations but alternate pronuniciations, which are entirely valid.

I know this is a light-hearted thread, but I find such complaints a little distasteful.

In Milton Keynes theres a Loughton & a Woughton. Loughton is pronounced Low-ton (as in cow) and Woughton is pronounced Woof-ton. Bit confusing

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by Demona
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I know this is a light-hearted thread, but I find such complaints a little distasteful.

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Not sure I follow your logic. How can people having a moan about how certain words are pronounced (and we all do it) be considered 'distasteful'?

Mocking someone for a disability is distasteful.

Making racist jokes is 'distasteful'.

People making comments about how certain words are pronounced is human nature.

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by Whistler
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Not sure I follow your logic.

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Well for a start a feeling cannot be logical, only appropriate, which in itself is subjective.

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Making racist jokes is 'distasteful'.

People making comments about how certain words are pronounced is human nature.

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Complaining about legitate alternate pronunciations which are often related to geographical area and culture I don't consider entirely unrelated to racism. Pronunication is one way of mocking people from a different culture, or educational background.


The way people pronounce words can be changed, but there's no reason they should have to when they are not incorrect. And if you don't want people to alter their pronunciation, then why complain about it?

(Edited by Demona 30/03/2003 22:50)

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by Demona
And if you don't want people to alter their pronunciation, then why complain about it?

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I believe you answered that one yourself:

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by Demona
I know this is a light-hearted thread

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Lighten up, I can't see why everything has to get all serious, or has to be turned into an intellectual discussion.

Near me, there are two places one called Olveston & the other Alveston that are relativly near each other. that can bet pretty tricky.

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by halojones
You don't say you're going for a swim in the zee, do you?! (not in English anyway). /end of rant

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by Whistler
Making racist jokes is 'distasteful'.

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I assume this was the offending line and so I guess Demona's point was that it *was* racist?

Personally I don't think it's worth causing a fuss about but that said, I can live without a world of 'Allo 'Allo type comedy accents.

In any case, speaking with an accent is not quite the same as mispronunciation I would think?

Hehe, this thread (well, earlier in it anyway) reminds me of an interview with Offspring member Greg K during a golf game they had on the site a while back:

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"We began our round at 9:45am. We were almost late because the announcer had a hard time pronouncing Greg's last name and we didn't know we were on the tee. How hard is it to say "K"?"

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Stupid, but funny all the same!

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by Incandenza
I assume this was the offending line and so I guess Demona's point was that it *was* racist?

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Halojones happened to be the poster before me, I did not mean to single her out.

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In any case, speaking with an accent is not quite the same as mispronunciation I would think?

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As I have already said, a lot of what was being complained about was not mispronunciation, it was the pronunciation belonging to an accent, in many cases american.

I don't really approve of complaints about genuine mispronunciation either, but anyway.

If there are no further addresses to me, then I shall take my leave of this thread, having disturbed it enough.


(Edited by Demona 31/03/2003 11:24)

Okay in future, for reference, the way you complain about a thread is *not* in said thread, there is a link - "Offensive Post, Problems? Report this thread.." at the top of every topic.

Please use it, it's the reason why we put it there.

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by halojones
Thanks, Whistler.

Sorry, I just deleted my post, so your post doesn't make sense now! I read Stoo's post and realised that I should probably contact someone direct instead of taking this thread further off topic, so that's why I deleted it.

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No problems, hun. I deleted my post when you deleted yours.

I don't really like it when people pronounce the "g" at the end of a word, like "sinGinG"

Like Dan said, I also hate the way SMG says "Okay" it's cringeworthy!

Ok..... is it pronounced "s-con" or "s-cone"? Personally I say scone because that's how it's spelled... Is it a regional thing or is there just one proper way of pronouncing it?

I say s-con

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by Teresa
I say s-con

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Ditto. Anyway the s-con is the first in the dictionary. So that must be right.

Heehee - now we're on to the posh thing

I bet a few people on here have issues with how people say bath and grass.

One thing i always get accused of saying funny is 'one' i have no idea why, but people have been taking the piss out of how i say it for years